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Robert Cray Interview


INTERVIEW WITH BLUES GUITAR LEGEND ROBERT CRAY

Originally appeared in the Centre County Gazette, March 2010

By Don Bedell

Blues guitarist and five-time Grammy Award winner Robert Cray, currently on tour in support of his latest release, This Time, will make a stop in State College on Monday evening (3/29) at the State Theatre.  This Time is Cray’s first studio album on his own label, Nozzle Records.

Cray was born in Columbus, Georgia in 1953 but admits that he wasn’t there long.  “My father was in the Army, so I was born in Columbus, but only lived there for eleven months,” Cray remembers.  After that, it was on to another Army base outside Tacoma, Washington followed by two to three year stays at various other bases including Munich, Germany and Virginia, eventually settling back in Washington state.  The continuous moving helped shape Cray’s early musical influences, “What we did then, was we bought a lot of records at the Post Exchange (on base).  Back in that day, my dad was listening to a lot of different music … Gospel music on Sundays, in particular, but people like Ray Charles and Sarah Vaughn and even B.B. King and John Lee Hooker records were at our house.  My mom was into people like Sam Cooke and Bobby Bland and Jackie Wilson.  So, as a young kid back in the early sixties, I heard all that music growing up.”

Back in the states in the mid-60s, Cray got his first guitar.  It was at that same time that “Beatlemania” began.  “I got a guitar and that’s what I wanted to do.  I wanted to be a Beatle.”  (laughs)  “I played everything that was on the radio which included everything – everything was mixed up on the radio back in those days so all the R&B and that stuff was on the radio as well.”  During his teen years, with the family now in Virginia, Cray started his first band playing everything from Sam & Dave to Jimi Hendrix. 

Cray onstage at The State Theatre.  (Photo by Don Bedell)
Once back in Washington state in his later teens, Cray had attended some rock festivals and discovered electric blues guitar players like Albert Collins and that’s what got him hooked.  What was it that eventually drew him in to electric guitar and the blues?  “It was just the emotion and I hadn’t really picked up on that kind of soloing, that kind of emotion in the guitar playing, the power in the guitar playing.  You know, as you get older you start to hear it.  Also, at the same time … it was the whole fantasy.  Here we were these teenage guys … playing through a Super Reverb (amplifier) with the reverb turned up and envisioning ourselves to be B.B. and Buddy and Albert Collins and Albert King and Freddie King … everybody.  But also there were these guys who had all these cool nicknames like Muddy Waters and Howlin’ Wolf.  And there was also the story about Robert Johnson and his, so-called, association with the devil.  We were reading books and listening to these songs and we were trying to figure out these people’s lives and their worlds.  These people became heroes to me and my friends so we went at it with gusto!”

By 1969, Cray had met bassist Richard Cousins and the Robert Cray Band began playing in Tacoma area bars and eventually moving to the college town of Eugene, Oregon.  The band was asked to tour with one of Cray’s musical inspirations, Albert Collins, during Collins’ Pacific Northwest Tour.  During this time, Cray also met comedian/actor John Belushi who gave Cray a small part in Animal House.  Cray (uncredited) plays the bassist in the house band “Otis Day & The Nights” in the film.

By the late 70’s, the Robert Cray Band had attracted the attention of a record label leading to the 1980 debut release, Who’s Been Talkin’?

In 1983, Cray’s second album, Bad Influence, was released which lead to an eventual meeting with Eric Clapton.  Cray and Clapton remain friends today.  The band had been offered the opportunity to do some shows with Clapton’s band in Europe.  The first of those shows was at the Montreux Jazz Festival in Switzerland.  The man who ran the festival came up to Cray during sound check telling him that he had a copy of Clapton’s version of Cray’s song Bad Influence.  “I hadn’t met Eric yet and then Eric showed up … and we sat on the lip of the stage and chatted about the upcoming tour and we became friends.  After that, Eric started showing up at a lot of our gigs when we’d show up in London, he’d just pop in.  Over the years, we’ve had a lot of opportunities to tour with Eric.  We recorded together on the Journeyman record that he did.  We co-wrote the song Old Love together, which was great.  It’s been a good relationship over the years.   He’s a great guy.”

Cray saw his biggest mainstream success with the 1986 release of Strong Persuader.  The album spawned a #22 Billboard Hot 100 hit with “Smokin’ Gun.”  That album was back in the headlines recently over the current Health Care Reform debate.  Representative John Larson, a Democratic Congressman from Connecticut, referred to Cray’s album when hailing President Obama’s re-invigorated attitude in persuading Americans to help pass the Health Care Bill.  Appearing on Chris Matthews’ MSNBC show ‘Hardball,’ Congressman Larson, when asked about the effectiveness of the President’s speech at recent Town Hall meetings discussing prospects of the complicated bill responded ”I’m glad to see he (the President) has got it back…he’s into his Robert Cray mode... he’s a Strong Persuader.”  Cray was watching as it happened, “My wife and I were sitting having a late lunch watching the Chris Matthews show and we both looked at each other and did a double take and said ‘Did he say what we thought he said?’ And we started laughing.  That was kinda funny.  It was cool.”

Robert Cray plays Fender Stratocaster guitars.  A relationship that lead to his designing his own Fender Signature Series guitar.  Cray explains, “I got contacted by a guy at Fender named John Grunder.  He approached me and he said that ‘We’d like to work on a Custom Shop Model of yours – your own signature.”  That was around 1989.  At that time, Cray was playing a 1964 Strat and a 1958 Strat Sunburst.  The ’58 is the model featured on the cover of Cray’s Strong Persuader album.  “What we did is we got those two guitars together and we tried to work out a medium between the necks of the two some pick-ups for the guitar.  We probably got the guitar out about ’91.  More recently, we’ve added a less expensive model.  Fender’s been a joy to work with.”

Cray’s new release This Time is a bit of returning to his roots, of sorts.  The new album brought a reunion with one of Cray’s oldest friends, bassist Richard Cousins.  “At the end of 2008, it was time for a change and so I had been talking to Richard about coming back to the band.  When the tour (with his previous band) ended, I contacted Richard … and said ‘We’ve got to get a drummer,’ and he (Cousins) just said, ‘Tony!’”  Cousins was referring to Tony Braunagel, who Cray and Cousins had played with at a benefit show.  The new lineup, which includes Jim Pugh, Cray’s keyboardist since 1989, started rehearsals in December of 2008 to start a tour, but also to prepare to enter the studio in January of 2009.  “So, we rented this farm house and did like the old hippie days and just made music … and brought in songs and rehearsed.  It was great, we had a really good time.  (There was) a lot of good energy in the band having Richard back.  He and I work really well together.  It was fun.  It was almost like starting a new band.  There was really good energy in the studio and I think it comes out on the record.”

The new album was a real collaborative effort with all members of the band contributing new songs.  It even includes a song co-written by Cray and his wife, Sue Turner-Cray.  The song, Forever Goodbye, deals with recent losses that they have experienced.  “My wife, Sue and myself have written (together) in the past, but we shared the lyric (on Forever Goodbye) because of loss that both of us had over the years in her mom and one of my brothers.  So, we put that song together.”

Cray says that needs “space” when writing new material.  “I need to have my head cleared from being out on the road.  When I’m on the road, my concern is the road.  It’s different than other people.  I know people that get up in the morning, have their coffee and they’re writing.  I can’t do that.  I have to clear my head from the road for a little bit and then I can have my coffee and write. (laughs)  And then it’s for an immediate purpose.  It’s for a deadline to go into the studio.  I work best under pressure.  I got a nickname from my old producer, Dennis Walker.  It’s ‘Last Minute Bob.’  (laughs)  It’s an on-going process anyway.  Once you’re in the studio and you’re signing your lyric, you’ve got a pencil there and you can change them.  That’s always the case.”

The current tour started off this year doing legs of about 2 weeks at a time.  That continues until April when they head to Japan for a series of shows at “Blue Note” clubs in Tokyo and Nagaya.  Then, it’s back to the States including the Doheny Blues Festival in Dana Point, California and the Crossroads Guitar Festival in Chicago.  July will take the band “across the pond” for shows in Ireland, the U.K., Switzerland and Italy.  The tour concludes back in the U.S. in August and September.  “We look forward to that.  It’s going to be a pretty busy year.”

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